Lilly’s Tradesman: Will I be rich, or subsist of myself without marriage? (CA 177)

To illustrate certain horary principles William Lilly presented a chart (CA 177) of a question by a tradesman who asked about several matters, including whether he would eventually be rich. Here is the chart recalculated by modern computer, but very close to the one used by Lilly:

If he should be rich, or subsist of himself without marriage? (CA 177)

Data for chart:

Te determine whether the tradesman would become rich or not, Lilly considered the following factors (CA 181):

The 2nd house symbolizes the wealth of the native. With Scorpio on the cusp of the 2nd, Mars rules his potential to get rich. Mars also disposes the Part of Fortune, another symbol of material well-being. Mars is quite strong in the 1st house and conjunct both the Ascendant of the horary chart and the benevolent fixed start Spica.

Jupiter, a general signifier of wealth, is exalted in Cancer and is quite prominent and strong conjunct the MC of the horary chart. Jupiter is also connected to the Ascendant degree and to 2nd-ruler Mars by a square aspect, but in signs of long ascension which makes it act more like a trine aspect.

There is also a translation of light connecting the ruler of his wealth (Mars) with the ruler of the Ascendant (Venus). The Moon is separating from a very recent sextile to Mars (followed quickly by a conjunction to Mercury) and will soon conjoin Venus, “transferring thereby both the virtue and influence of Mercury and Mars to the proper significator of the Querent.” Lilly does not explain the role of Mercury in this configuration, even though the Moon conjoins Mercury AFTER perfecting a sextile to Mars and BEFORE conjoining Venus. On might wonder whether Mercury could be problematic as ruler of the unfortunate 12th house.

The Moon is also disposed by the Sun, which is quite strong and dignified in Leo in the angular 10th house, and thus the Moon shares in the good and powerful condition of its dispositor. This is quite fortunate for the question because the Moon “hath a general signification in every Question, so being no ways unfortunate she promised the Querent much good.” (CA 182)

Finally, Lilly studied the Part of Fortune, another general signifier of wealth: “I considered that the Part of Fortune was in a fixed sign and in Mars his own terms [that is, in the terms of Mars]; from all of which testimonies aforesaid, I judged that the Demandant would acquire an Estate and have a competent fortune in this world, but attain it with labor and care because it is signified by an Infortune [namely, Mars]; so to the day hereof he hath; but because Mars, lord of the 7th house (which is the house of Women and Wives), hath the most material signification of the thing demanded, viz., Wealth and Riches, I advised to marry, and acquainted him, that without Marriage he should nothing so well subsist.” (CA 182)

Here the Part of Fortune in a fixed sign suggests enduring wealth. In addition, the Part of Fortune is disposed by Mars and occupies the terms (and face) of Mars, making it more dignified and effective. Interestingly, in his discussion Lilly appears to have ignored the fact that Mars is peregrine and in detriment in Libra, and in his own scoring system Mars ranks as the worst planet in the chart with a score of -10 points as calculated in Solar Fire (see table below).

Dignities and Debilities of the Tradesman horary (Ptolemy’s terms)

I’m not sure ow Solar Fire calculated the score for Mars. If I did it correctly, in Lilly’s point system (CA 115) Mars would score as follows:

Peregrine: -5
In Detriment: -5
Slow in motion: -2
Occidental: -2

In 1st house: +5
Direct in motion: +4
Free of Sun’s beams: +5
Conjunct Spica: +5

Another positive factor may be that Mars occupies the triplicity and term of Jupiter (participating triplicity ruler of Air signs), which is exalted in Cancer and powerful on the MC. Jupiter squares Mars with a dominant sinister square with reception, which acts more like a sextile, for which Lilly would award +3 points, giving Mars a positive total of +22, a negative total of -14, and an overall combined score of +7.

About Anthony Louis

Author of books about astrology and tarot, including TAROT PLAIN AND SIMPLE, HORARY ASTROLOGY, and THE ART OF FORECASTING WITH SOLAR RETURNS.
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5 Responses to Lilly’s Tradesman: Will I be rich, or subsist of myself without marriage? (CA 177)

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  2. K says:

    He didn’t ignore it. He thinks accidental dignity gives Mars a high score. Glad to see this applies to horary as well. Sick of the idea that only Capricorn Mars can succeed.

    • Thanks for the clarification. As you point out, in this chart Mars is highly active, being angular and closely aspected by several other planets. Mars is Libra is disposed by Saturn, exalted ruler of Libra, and Saturn closely sextiles Mars as well as the horary Ascendant. Mars occupies the terms of Jupiter, which closely squares Mars from the MC. The Moon, a general signifier in all horary charts, closely sextiles Mars from the 10th house.

      Nonetheless, Lilly focuses on the fact that Mars is an Infortune and does not appear to interpret the essential debility of Mars as part of his delineation.

  3. Jon says:

    Mars then in this case is more insidious or patronizing when in the 2nd? Winning Times by Matrix software is a good judge of the scores. Look no further than the Venezuelan bond to determine fortune and fate of capitalism.

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